AVS Converter is beating me?! Can anyone send reinforcements?

[...spikepit]

Hi There! In a search for a program that produces 700mb, good quality AVIs (have been using DVDx. Yukky) Ive come across AVS Converter it looks AWESOME but I can't convert direct from a DVD (say for instance one Ive rented or something) for some reason. I have DVD Decryptor and it doesn't seem to help. Any ideas?

[Mitz]

What is the problem with dvdx? It will make the dvd to an avi to fit on a 700mb disc...I know it might take a while but as you can see it does two jobs...Rips the dvd and converts it. If you want to use avs converter you need to rip the dvd to your computer with dvd decrypter and then convert it with avs converter.

I can make a more detailed video tutorial on dvdx, or dvd decrypter if you like. I have done one before but I did leave out a few important details. OOOPPPSS

[...spikepit]

Nothing wrong with DVDx, I just dont know alot about it. Every avi I rip turns out to be above 700mb and the picture doesn't look as good as the ones I download. If you could tell me what to change in the Input settings, I'll be your best friend? lol If I change the "Volume Won't Exceed" option to anything other than infinite, it cuts the last few chapters off the movie in a separate file. 

[Mitz]

I will check out what is the best and easiest to use, then make a video for you, making the movie to under 700mb. Will get back to you in a few days..

[Mitz]

I have a few questions?
Do you have divx video codec installed on your computer?
Why do you want to make a dvd movie fit into 700mb? Is this to put on a disc to play in a dvd machine? Or is it for a computer that only has a cd drive?

By the way I ripped a dvd with dvd decrypter, then converted it with avs converter but because it was from a dvd file package and  it made 4 separate bits to the movie....Very good quality and put together they are under 700mb. The only problem is that they must be joined now....LOL ....That's another storey...will get back to that..

I also tried DVDX with xvid codec and the same movies turned out to be around 450mb but not as good quality. The sound is in sinc but the video is degraded somewhat.

Now I know divx codec is far better than xvid and this is why I am asking if you have it. It will make the same movie, better quality, in sinc, and under 700mb.

If you choose VCD which stands for video cd, the same movie will turn out to be 1170 MB whereas if you choose AVI and divx codec it turns out to be under 700mb....

When choosing VCD the size of the output file shows up and if it is over 700mb than it will chop the rest off into a separate section.


People do choose to make VCD because it is actually a mpeg file which is compatible with most home dvd players, however now days most dvd players can play divx or xvid avi files.

An AVI is a box that may have divx or xvid or some other codec inside...This is why some avi's do not play in Windows media player.

[...spikepit]

I do have Divx Codec. Tis very handy! Theres no real reason for wanting it 700mb, my novice brain just figured thats a good point to aim for as all the downloaded movies I have are perfect qual and 700mb. Alll the ones Ive done are anywhere between 750mb and 840mb and really shakey quality, like watcing Digital TV when the reception/connection is bad.

Should I change the resolution settings on DVDx in the output settings? What should I have Zoom set at? I vaguely remember fiddling with them a long time ago.

I really appreciate all this help, thanks.

[Mitz]

I am going to make a video on dvdx to make a good quality avi from the dvd files ripped with dvd decrypter. Because it will be better quality it will go to about 750mb or even 800 but you can fit a or six on a dvd disc if your dvd player can play them. I am making the video today..will get back to you soon.

[Mitz]

I had made a video on dvdx using divx codec, lame mp3 audio, and it has has turned out very clear video quality and the sound is in sinc with the video. I did not download a movie from the internet, I ripped it using dvd decrypter...So therefore I had the original video files which consisted of the video ts file and the ifo's... I needed to choose the right ifo file for this process. This video just shows you a simple way of finding the right file.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YTu2qMwUk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YTu2qMwUk</a>

Let me know if something is missing or you need more details...
 

[coolby]

Is this program illegal to use? I know DVD decrypter has been apparently removed from the makers website because he was getting sued for what the program did. This one seems to pass under the radar and it puzzles me?

[Dak]

When commercial DVD movies are made, they include encryption. This means that the average user should not be able to simply copy them from one DVD to another, as we used to be able to do with the good old VCR movies.

Unfortunately for the manufacturers, DVD players cannot play the encrypted file without the means to decode it. This means that the encryption method and codes are actually widely available, or the hardware manufacturers would not be able to make a player that was able to read encrypted files. Not much use renting a DVD if your player cant play it!

Its also possible to encrypt your own home videos whilst burning. Many software options are available for this.. even Nero can encrypt your own home movies. They use exactly the same methods and codes as the commercial DVD manufacturers, again because if they didnt, the DVD player would not be able to read them. Its an industry standard.

DVD decrypter uses these same codes to decode the movie. It stores the files in the uncoded form, and what you do with them after that is your own concern. The people who wrote DVD decrypter will tell you that their intention is to have the software used only for backing up your own movies. You will see other software that can also decrypt, such as DVD Shrink. All of the software authors will fall back on 'this software is only intended for use in creating backups, and we do not condone or recommend video piracy' disclaimers.

If you see instructions on this site or the parent site, tips4pc.com , on how to use this software or anything like it, we'll offer the same disclaimer. What you actually use it for is your problem, not ours!

DVD Decrypter, and the use of it, is not illegal. It is perfectly legal to create a 'backup copy' of anything. Its perfectly legal to own a steak knife too, so long as you use it as a steak knife. Take it into a bank and threaten someone with it and its no longer a steak knife though.. its a weapon, and became illegal as soon as you walked into the bank with it.

It only becomes illegal if you then pass a copy of a copyrighted movie on to someone else, especially if you are doing it for a cash reward. This is called 'pirating', and when done on a larger scale can attract major penalties in most countries.

No software mentioned on this website is in any way illegal. The way in which you use the software is what determines the legality of such things as DVD decrypter or DVD shrink, and is beyond our control.

AVS Converter does none of this. The program can convert files between formats, but it has no decoding abilities of its own. There are no grey areas in the way you use it, either. It can only convert unencrypted files, which is why Mitz used DVD Decrypter to decode the files first. Of course, if you ask Mitz, I am sure she will tell you that the DVD she decoded was a home video of her kids, which she accidentally encrypted while using Nero to burn the movie...

If you dont intend to sell the movies you make, I doubt that you would be at any risk of prosecution anyway by copying movies. You are actually at more risk of prosecution using P2P file sharing programs such as Limewire, simply because you have crossed that fine line by sharing copyrighted files with other people. Even the use of Limewire is a grey area, and the only successful prosecutions for filesharing around the world at this time have been people who set up websites sharing thousands of files with anyone that wanted them. They became too visible!

[Mitz]

It can only convert unencrypted files, which is why Mitz used DVD Decrypter to decode the files first. Of course, if you ask Mitz, I am sure she will tell you that the DVD she decoded was a home video of her kids, which she accidentally encrypted while using Nero to burn the movie...

I haven't laughed so much in days...here I was seriously reading your post...thanks for that dak...I am still laughing while I accidentally encrypt another movie.. Nicely put.

[Dak]

 
You mean you really were doing something on the grey side of the law?
OMG I am shocked

Bottom line though is that if you arent selling or giving it away, and you have paid for the original copy, you probably arent breaking any laws. You paid for the right to watch the DVD anytime you like. Whether you are watching the original now, or the copy in 3 years time, is not really relevant.

A friend of a friend in Melbourne hires latest release DVD's in Melbourne. She decrypts and burns them using DVD Shrink, then sell them to a large group of people whom she has collected via word of mouth for 15 bucks each, and is doing very nicely, thanks.

Now THAT is illegal. No ifs or buts about it. That is the sort of thing that the law is looking for, and the reason that DVD Decrypter was sued. Ever bought a pirated DVD from Asia? Of course a company like MGM will want to stop the MILLIONS of copies of movies that are distributed every year, which they invested hundreds of millions of dollars creating. They want the returns from that investment to come back to them.. cant blame them.

The little guy though, who burns a single copy of a movie (which he paid for) because he loves it and he wants a copy before the kids scratch the original beyond recovery, is not going to be prosecuted as he is NOT breaking any laws that I am aware of.

If he sends his sister in Melbourne a copy, then yes, he is breaking the law, but he is unlikely to be prosecuted.

If he rents the DVD and copies it so he can watch it over and over, its a bit of a grey area. He has paid for the watching of it when he rented the DVD... should he have to pay again to watch it again? Probably...

If he makes 400 copies and distributes them for 15 bucks each though, he is risking his freedom.

[...spikepit]

... ... ... ... ... ... ... wow ... ... ... thanks for all the info ... ... i think. lol. I dont wanna sell 400 copies tho, just wanna watch it in my room on my bed. lol. This form of banter is what keeps me at pctipsforum! Rock on! =]

Thanks for all the help.

[...spikepit]

P.S. Reply number 7 mentions a video, but the link isnt on there on my screen... ... ...?

[Dak]

Its there on my screen?

Here is the address of the video..

http://www.youtube.com/v/44YTu2qMwUk&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1

[commit832]

you can try Pavtube DVD Ripper.
hope it can help you ,good luck .